What should the federal government do to decide whether or not to issue a passport when there is a question about the validity of the birth certificate? Do you think this should be an issue?
Wednesday, August 29, 2018
U.S. Citizens of Latinx heritage are having their passports taken from them, throwing their citizenship into question
What should the federal government do to decide whether or not to issue a passport when there is a question about the validity of the birth certificate? Do you think this should be an issue?
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I don't think it's fair that the government is saying that all passports are invalid. Since there are people within the city who were actually born in the US, the government has no way of proving who has a fake or real certificate. This issue is happening within a small area of Texas so the small amount of people with fake birth certificates shouldn't affect the general US economy. I don't think the government should be focusing on this issue because those people with fake certificates have not caused any harm to the US.
ReplyDeleteEven though I think that it is unfair that Trump would go to further means other than building a wall in order to get rid of the immigrants, I think that it's good that there was at least some background regarding the matter. However, having some historical background does not justify unfair claims of immigrants possessing fake passports. I think that the government should find a more solid way of proving fake passports that do not involve passing current situations on past evidence.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Jacqueline that there are no negative repercussions to letting everyone keep their passports, and in addition I would argue that anyone raised in the US as an American citizen, regardless of whether they were born here or not, is fundamentally an American and has just as much right to American citizenship as I do. Many children of American parents are born abroad each year, but are raised in the US in our culture, and children born somewhere else but raised here have been brought up in the exact same culture and have given just as much to this country as their "legally born" peers. Furthermore, these people's birth certificates were faked when they were babies and had no control over anything in their life, so refusing them a passport is punishing them for a crime that they themselves did not commit.
ReplyDelete--Alessandra Squillace
DeleteI find unfair that such a large number of passports are now being considered ineligible, especially since it roped so many more people into an issue where they had no say. Additionally, I do not think the government has a fool-proof method of determining which birth certificates are fake, therefore there is no valid point in deeming "hundreds, possible thousands" of passports as fake. If anything, the people with these passports haven't done anything to hurt anyone, especially if there's such a large number of people under this category.
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DeleteIt is not fair to deny citizens passports because the government is unable to check if they are real or not. The government may have another agenda as they are denying passport requests along the Texas/Mexico border even though the event happened in one small area. A possible short-term solution could be that the government allows them to travel only within the United States since they are afraid of illegal immigration.
ReplyDeleteI think this is an issue. The federal government should require the proper paperwork and documentation which would prove that they were born in US territory.
ReplyDeleteThis type of investigation is complicated because it's hard to enforce US passport regulations under these types of circumstances. The investigation is what any country should do in order to enforce its laws, but it should be handled in a better way. People shouldn't get their passport taken away if they actually were born in the US, and shouldn't be discriminated because of where they live or their background. It's also a problem if the government can't tell the difference between real or fake birth certificates, as that can cause more problems with fraud. It's a concerning and tricky issue that will take a lot of thought.
ReplyDeleteWell firstly, I don't think that the correct action to take is denying all of the south boarder if the issue originated in Brownsville unless there is absolute evidence against them. However, obviously the problem in this entire controversy is in fact evidence. So the first step to take, in my opinion, would be to collect the papers and documents from all those who can provide it at the moment, allow those who can't a certain amount of time to find it and if they do, then a passport will be granted.
ReplyDeleteI do not think that the best course of action is to deny passports South of the Border because there probably more real certificates than fake. Additionally, since it is hard to distinguish between real and fake certificates, it isn't very practical to deny those that aren't obviously invalid. A partial solution is to temporarily limit those suspected with false papers until the government is able to prove that their papers are valid.
ReplyDeleteI feel like the context for this course of action is a bad excuse for unjust anti-immigrant policies. I think it is cruel to take away someone’s nationality, very much linked to someone’s sense of identity, after 20+ years to build a life around it. In the end, looking for the couple hundreds of fake passports will do very little good and a lot of harm. I think this passport issue should not be an issue at all in 2018.
ReplyDeleteThe Trump Administration’s decision to deny passports of Latinx citizens of the US is unfair. Trump is big on trying to stop immigration because he believes that high crime rates are related to immigrants—not true. Immigrants are more likely to abide by the law once they cross the border. Although it is difficult for the State Department to determine who is a citizen and who isn’t, everyone needs to be given a fair chance to first to prove their citizenship. And what does the State Department classify as a “fraudulent birth certificate”? This is an issue, but how to decide whether to give or accept a passport based on a birth certificate is something I don’t have an answer to.
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I think that it is unjust of the Trump administration to deny passports to people based on their ethnicity and type of birth (midwives). Since it is super difficult to prove someone's citizenship and certification of birth, I feel like the government should allow everyone born under a midwife at the time to obtain a passport, as they have probably lived in America long enough to apple for amnesty, and start taking steps towards regulating birth certificates and midwives more closely to prevent another situation like this from happening again. Denying a passport to someone who has probably lived in America for their whole life and possibly even deporting them isn't good because the people affected by this will experience huge culture/identity shock.
ReplyDeleteThis issue is a difficult problem to solve. I agree with my classmates who have posted above, and think that the government shouldn't consider all passports invalid. I think the government's current tactic is 'better to be safe than sorry', but it is detrimental for the people who are being affected by this policy. I don't know a good solution to this problem, but I believe the government can come up with a better solution than the policy in place right now.
ReplyDeleteI feel like there is no point in reassessing passport rights to those who live near the United States border. I feel like Trump's strict policies on immigration is kind of pointless in general. Moreover, it is unjust to focus in on one area of the United States on the restriction of passports, especially where one race/ethnicity is present in significant numbers. I agree with comments above suggesting short term solutions, and maybe the federal government could analyze birth certificates and citizenship (without bias), but allow those they are checking to keep their passports or be allowed one until proven as non-U.S. citizens.
ReplyDeleteThis is a difficult issue, and it is quite difficult to determine who's passport is valid and who's isn't. The current policy is adversely affecting people who do have citizenship, which infringes on their rights. The Trump Administration should definitely change their policy to differentiate citizens from non-citizens, and go from there. Trump's view on immigration is very narrow-minded, and should be strongly reconsidered.
ReplyDeleteI think it is wrong to deny people living along the Texas/Mexico border their passports because this is effecting people who are citizens as well. It it very difficult to prove if someone's birth certificate is real or fake. I agree with my classmates that this is no the best solution to the problem and the government should quickly come up with a better solution.
ReplyDeleteKam
DeleteI think the government should allow some way for everyone to have their passports checked and approve the legitimate passports. For the babies who have already lived in the United States I feel they should be allowed to stay as they are already settled and having them deported would cause more issues. A new law could be created to have it regulated better and learn from the past issues.
ReplyDeleteI think the Trump Administration's decision to deny citizens their passports is unjust since the government has no concrete way to differentiate real and fake birth certificates. I agree with the comments above that this is a difficult issue to solve as there are citizens that have lived in the United States their entire lives, but I think these citizens should be given a chance to prove their citizenship.
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DeleteI think that the government should be worrying about other issues, this is most certainly not the most pressing issue regarding immigration in the U.S., and it makes no sense to punish individuals for something that they had no control over and possibly no knowledge of. In my opinion, Trump and the government are using this situation as an excuse to continue their use of prejudice to determine who can receive citizenship in the U.S..
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I think that even if birth certificates are difficult to tell if they are legitimate or not, these citizens should not be punished for. It shouldn't be a pressing issue at hand because some of these individuals were born here in the States. The Trump Administration's justification of denying these citizens is completely unfair and should be focusing more on important matters, rather than people who have done no harm to the country.
ReplyDeleteI do not think it is acceptable for the federal government to deny passports because they cannot definitively tell if a passport is real or not; therefore, they should not deny access. Alongside that, there are probably more real passports than fake, so you should give every person the benefit of the doubt. I feel that everyone should be treated innocent till proven guilty whether they are a citizen or not. I understand that some of these illegal immigrants take jobs away from working-class citizens, but any person would do the same thing if they were in a that position to better their family’s future.
ReplyDeleteI think the government should not assume that all passports examined are deemed invalid or fake because some people actually do have real passports. It is a lot harder to obtain a fake passport than a real one. Everyone should be given a fair chance to share their side of the story regardless until there is definite proof. The Trump administration's decision to deny and confiscate passports is unacceptable and they should not harm those who haven't done anything wrong.
ReplyDeleteWhile I understand that a very small number of people might have illegitimate birth certificates in the US, I think the way that the government is attempting to solve the problem is inefficient and counter-productive. It is extremely unfair that so many innocent people have to be hurt by having their passports denied just because of a 20-year-old miniscule problem. While I cannot think of a perfect solution to the problem, I do not agree with the current solution.
ReplyDeleteThis is unfair to those that are currently living near the US border as they’re unfairly being punished for something that’s not their fault. Just because some people has don’t it is doesn’t give someone the right to punish all for it. Those that have been caught can have their passports taken away, but if there’s no proof they’re citizens.
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ReplyDeleteI think that this is an important issue that should be addressed carefully. I feel that innocent citizens are unfairly experiencing fear and anger just because they can not prove the validity of their birth certificate. I believe that the federal government should not be allowed to deny anyone their passport unless they can individually provide hard evidence of their fraudulent birth certificates. Everyone should be viewed as innocent until proven guilty.
ReplyDeleteI’ve known about the issue with immigrants and people being deported, and I believe that what is happening is not fair for innocent citizens. And for the immigrants that have taken the test to become a citizen shouldn’t be questioned about their citizenship either. This matter should be dealt with fairly and cautiously. I understand that the government wants to be more strict with their policy, but I don’t agree with the method they are doing to fix the problem.
ReplyDeleteI do not think it's fair for the federal government to deny U.S. passports just because they can not identify the real or the fake ones. This just reflects on the poor regulation in the naturalization process. This should be an opportunity for the government to reflect and change the system instead of just denying passports or taking away citizenship.
ReplyDeleteWhat should the federal government do to decide whether or not to issue a passport when there is a question about the validity of the birth certificate? Do you think this should be an issue
ReplyDeleteI think the U.S. government identifying fraud birth certificates is not much of an issue, but addressing the issue of citizenship for those with birth certificates that have been denied should be regulated better. I think issuing citizenship for those of Latinx heritage should be treated equally and respectfully with the rest of the citizens of this country if they want to become citizens. The way the Trump administration has dealt with those individuals only takes away their right to be a citizen.
I think that this is a major issue for people along the Texas/Mexican border. It is not fair to consider their birth certificates illegitimate and prevent them from having a passport. I agree with Akira in that no ones birth certificate should be revoked unless it proven to be fake.
ReplyDeleteI think it is very unfair to Latino U.S. citizens especially when the government cannot determine whether it’s a fake or real certificate. The government should
ReplyDeletefind a better way to deal with this or focus dealing other conflicts/issues since these people doesn’t hurt our government in any ways.